SearcharxivSearch

arXiv · 1908.10914

Choosing between incompatible ideals

Abstract

Suppose $\mathcal I$ and $\mathcal J$ are proper ideals on some set $X$. We say that $\mathcal I$ and $\mathcal J$ are incompatible if $\mathcal I \cup \mathcal J$ does not generate a proper ideal. Equivalently, $\mathcal I$ and $\mathcal J$ are incompatible if there is some $A \subseteq X$ such that $A \in \mathcal I$ and $X \setminus A \in \mathcal J$. If some $B \subseteq X$ is either in $\mathcal I \setminus \mathcal J$ or in $\mathcal J \setminus \mathcal I$, then we say that $B$ chooses between $\mathcal I$ and $\mathcal J$. We consider the following Ramsey-theoretic problem: Given several pairs $(\mathcal I_1,\mathcal J_1), (\mathcal I_2,\mathcal J_2), \dots, (\mathcal I_k,\mathcal J_k)$ of incompatible ideals on a set $X$, find some $A \subseteq X$ that chooses between as many of these pairs of ideals as possible. The main theorem is that for every $n \in \mathbb N$, there is some $I(n) \in \mathbb N$ such that given at least $I(n)$ pairs of incompatible ideals on any set $X$, there is some $A \subseteq X$ choosing between at least $n$ of them. This theorem is proved in two main steps. The first step is to identify a (purely finitary) problem in extremal combinatorics, and to show that our problem concerning ideals is equivalent to this combinatorial problem. The second step is to analyze the combinatorial problem in order to show that the number $I(n)$ described above exists, and to put bounds on it. We show $\textstyle \frac{1}{2}n \log_2 n - O(n) \,<\, I(n) \,<\, n \ln n + O(n).$ The upper bound is proved by considering a different but closely related combinatorial problem involving hypergraphs, which may be of independent interest. We also investigate some applications of this theorem to a problem concerning conditionally convergent series.

Explore related subjects

Keep this discovery

BibTeXRIS

Will Brian, Paul B. Larson. 2019-08-28. Choosing between incompatible ideals. https://arxiv.org/abs/1908.10914

Cite the original work for its findings. Save a collection to share your selection of sources.

KEEP EXPLORING

Related papers

Balanced even cycles in signed graphs:Tur\'an bounds, double covers, and parity obstructions

We study Tur\'an problems for balanced even cycles in simple signed graphs, where signed subgraphs are considered up to switching. For every balanced bipartite signed graph, the signed and ordinary Tur\'an numbers differ by at most a factor of two. Our main structural results concern the underlying graphs that admit a signing in which every $2k$-cycle is unbalanced. We characterize these graphs by the absence of an odd dependence among their $2k$-cycle incidence vectors, give a cohomological formulation, and construct subgraph-minimal obstructions of arbitrarily large order. In particular, there is no finite forbidden-subgraph characterization. We also give an exact closed-walk criterion for cycles in double covers and derive a direct signed breadth-first-search upper bound. As applications, we prove \[ \hex(n,C_{+4})=\left(\frac{\sqrt2}{2}+o(1)\right)n^{3/2} \] and study the signed hexagon number $R_6(n)=\hex(n,\{C_{-3},C_{+6}\})$. We characterize the underlying graphs counted by $R_6$ and express it as an extremal problem for ordinary $C_6$-free graphs with a prescribed involution. For every sufficiently large $n$, we construct examples with $\Omega(n^{4/3})$ edges, and we give an equivariant construction attaining the coefficient obtained from the F\"uredi--Naor--Verstra\"ete lower bound by double-cover transfer. Finally, we give $n$-vertex $C_{+10}$-free signed graphs with $\Omega(n^{6/5})$ edges and use octagon examples to illustrate the limitations of theta-freeness as a signing criterion.

math.CO

Fractional DP-colorings of $d$-degenerate locally sparse graphs

Bernshteyn, Kostochka, and Zhu (2020) introduced the notion of fractional DP-coloring, which generalizes both fractional coloring and fractional list coloring. Among several foundational results, they proved that every $d$-degenerate bipartite graph $G$ satisfies $\chi_f^{\mathrm{DP}} \le (1 + o(1))\frac{d}{\log d}$, and that this bound is optimal---a stark contrast to ordinary fractional coloring. In this paper, we extend this upper bound to all $d$-degenerate triangle-free graphs, proving that $\chi_f^{\mathrm{DP}} \le (4 + o(1))\frac{d}{\log d}$. This generalizes a recent result of Martinsson and Steiner (2025) for ordinary fractional coloring. We derive this result as a corollary of a more general upper bound concerning locally sparse graph orderings. Specifically, a $d$-degenerate graph $G$ is left $k$-locally-sparse if it admits a degeneracy ordering in which, for every vertex $v$, the subgraph induced by its back-neighbors contains at most $k$ edges. We show that if a $d$-degenerate graph $G$ is left $\frac{d^2}{f}$-locally-sparse, then \[ \chi_f^{\mathrm{DP}}(G) \le (8 + o(1))\frac{d}{\log f}. \] This immediately yields an identical upper bound on the ordinary fractional chromatic number $\chi_f(G)$, improving upon the leading constants of previously known bounds. Additionally, we establish the asymptotic sharpness of this result up to the leading constant. For any $1 \ll f \le d^2$, we construct $d$-degenerate graphs that are left $\frac{d^2}{f}$-locally-sparse and satisfy $\chi_f(G) \ge (1 - o(1))\frac{d}{\log f}$. Finally, as applications of our main theorem, we obtain improved upper bounds on the fractional DP-chromatic number of $d$-degenerate $K_{1,t,t}$-free graphs, as well as $K_{t,t,t}$-free graphs with maximum degree $\Delta$. Notably, these bounds improve upon existing results even in the setting of ordinary fractional coloring.

math.CO

Erd\H{o}s-S\'{o}s for digraphs

It is shown that every Eulerian digraph on $n$ vertices with more than $(t-1)n$ arcs contains every oriented tree with $t$ edges. The digraphs have no loops or repeated arcs, but opposite arcs are permitted. The bound is sharp for each fixed oriented tree, as witnessed by disjoint unions of complete bidirected graphs. Previously, such tight bounds were not known, even just for directed paths. This can be considered as a directed analog of the recently proved Erd\H{o}s-S\'os conjecture. The result was proved by GPT-6 Astra.

math.CO