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The Strength of Menger's Conjecture

Franklin D. Tall·Stevo Todorcevic·Seçil Tokgöz
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Menger conjectured that subsets of R with the Menger property must be $σ$-compact. While this is false when there is no restriction on the subsets of R, for projective subsets it is known to follow from the Axiom of Projective Determinacy, which has considerable large cardinal consistency strength. We note that in fact, Menger's conjecture for projective sets has consistency strength of only an inaccessible cardinal.

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Franklin D. Tall, Stevo Todorcevic, Seçil Tokgöz. 2020-06-25. The Strength of Menger's Conjecture. https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.16000

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