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Largest Sidon subsets in weak Sidon sets

Jie Ma·Quanyu Tang
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A finite set $ S \subset \mathbb{R} $ is called a Sidon set if all sums $ x+y $ with $ x,y \in S $ and $ x \le y $ are distinct, and a weak Sidon set if all sums $ x+y $ with $ x,y \in S $ and $ x < y $ are distinct. For a finite set $ A \subset \mathbb{R} $, let $ h(A) $ denote the maximum size of a Sidon subset of $ A $, and define $$ g(n) := \min\{\, h(A) : A \subset \mathbb{R},\ |A| = n,\ A \text{ is a weak Sidon set} \,\}. $$ S\'ark\"ozy and S\'os asked whether the limit $ \lim_{n\to\infty} g(n)/n $ exists and, if so, to determine its value. We resolve this problem completely by determining $g(n)$ exactly: $$ g(n)=\left\lceil \frac{n+1}{2}\right\rceil \qquad\text{for all } n\ge 1. $$ In particular, $\lim_{n\to\infty} g(n)/n=\frac12$. We also investigate a related problem of Erd\H{o}s concerning a local difference condition. A finite set $ A \subset \mathbb{R} $ is called a $(4,5)$-set if every $4$-element subset of $A$ determines at least five distinct values among its six pairwise absolute differences. Erd\H{o}s asked for the optimal constant $ c_* > 0 $ such that every $(4,5)$-set of size $ n $ contains a Sidon subset of size at least $ c_* n $. Gy\'arf\'as and Lehel reduced this to an extremal problem of $3$-uniform hypergraphs and proved $\frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{141 \cdot 76} \le c_* \le \frac{3}{5}$. We improve both bounds by establishing $$ \frac{9}{17} \le c_* \le \frac{4}{7}, $$ where the lower bound uses a reformulation of the extremal problem, and the upper bound follows from an explicit construction together with a convenient characterization of $c_*$.

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Jie Ma, Quanyu Tang. 2026-02-26. Largest Sidon subsets in weak Sidon sets. https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.23282

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