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E. M. Corsini

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SHARP -- A spectrograph proposal to fully exploit ELT capabilities and look beyond JWST

The Extremely Large Telescopes (ELTs), with their large apertures and cutting-edge Multi-Conjugate Adaptive Optics (MCAO) systems, promise to deliver data that is both sharper and deeper than even the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) across large fields. SHARP is a concept study for a near-IR (0.95-2.45 $μ$m) spectrograph specifically designed to fully exploit the collecting area and angular resolution capabilities of the upcoming ESO's ELT. The instrument concept is driven by the goal of tackling the most important questions in astrophysics and cosmology, from exploring primordial galaxies to studying the formation of young stellar object and planetary systems in the nearby dust-enshrouded regions, bridging the gap between the local and the distant Universe. This requires versatility to accommodate diverse observational needs. SHARP is composed of two main units: NEXUS, a Multi-Object Spectrograph (MOS) optimized for detecting the faintest sources, and VESPER, a multi-object Integral Field Unit (multi-IFU) designed for brighter ones. This article provides an overview of the scientific design drivers, the solutions developed to meet them, and the resulting optical design that achieves the required performance.

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Advancing the detection of low surface brightness galaxies. I. ATTILA: multi-tAsking deTecTIon tool for Lsb gAlaxies

Context. Ultra-diffuse galaxies (UDGs) lie at the extreme end of the size-luminosity distribution of low surface-brightness (LSB) galaxies. Their detection and characterization require deep imaging and reliable source detection techniques that can handle low signal-to-noise ratios and severe source blending. Aims. We aim at improving the detection and characterization of the LSB galaxies and UDG candidates in different environments. To this end, we have developed a new automated detection Python-based tool, named ATTILA. Methods. We use deep g- and r-band imaging from the VST Early-type GAlaxy Survey (VEGAS), covering the central region of Hydra I and three new additional fields. Sources are identified combining tiling processing, source detection, and iterative deblending. The structural parameters are derived through surface brightness profile analysis and Sérsic modelling. Cluster membership is determined using the early-type galaxies colour-magnitude relation. Results. We identify 24 new UDGs, doubling the known population in the Hydra-I cluster to 48, consistent with expectations from halo mass scaling relations, and 92 additional LSB galaxies. In real data, ATTILA recovers more than 80% of previously known LSB galaxies and significantly improves the automated detection rate relative to standard methods. Conclusions. By improving the recovery of faint and diffuse sources while mitigating blending and contamination effects, ATTILA enables a more complete census of the LSB galaxy population, including UDGs.

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Bulgeless Evolution And the Rise of Discs (BEARD) I. Physical drivers of the mass-size relation for Milky Way-like galaxies

In the standard $Λ$ cold dark matter ($Λ$CDM) cosmology, the existence of massive pure-disc galaxies remains challenging within the hierarchical framework and is key to understanding the evolutionary history of Milky Way-like systems. In this work, we investigate the physical origin of the scatter in the stellar mass-size relation of massive spiral galaxies, with a particular focus on bulgeless systems. We analyse 22 nearby bulgeless galaxies from the Bulgeless Evolution And the Rise of Discs (BEARD) survey using deep $g$- and $r$-band imaging obtained with the 2.5 m Isaac Newton Telescope Wide Field Camera. We derive surface-brightness, colour, and stellar-mass-density radial profiles to measure $R_1$, the radius where $Σ_* = 1\,\mathrm{M}_\odot\,\mathrm{pc}^{-2}$, adopted here as a physically motivated size proxy. Point spread function (PSF) effects are corrected through star subtraction and wavelet deconvolution. BEARD bulgeless galaxies follow the tight stellar mass-$R_1$ relation defined in previous studies, with a similar scatter of $\sim 0.1$ dex. Using galaxies from the IllustrisTNG50 simulation, we find that the scatter is linked to morphology, with bulgeless, BEARD-like analogues and bulge-dominated galaxies tracing the upper and lower envelopes of the relation, respectively. This trend correlates with the specific central stellar mass density, $Σ^{\mathrm{spec}}_{1,\mathrm{kpc}}$, suggesting that differences between observations and simulations reflect the broader central-density range spanned by BEARD bulgeless galaxies. A deeper analysis of the physical driver of this morphological segregation reveals that the scatter in the mass-size relation is also related to the spatial configuration of merger events, rather than their frequency, with bulgeless systems tending to inhabit halos with a slightly higher spin. (abridged)

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SHARP: Beyond JWST -- Revealing the galaxy birth and growth with the resolution of the ELT

A deep understanding of the life-cycle of galaxies, particularly those of high mass, requires clarifying the mechanisms that regulate star formation (SF) and its abrupt shutdown (quenching), often capable of stopping SF rates of hundreds of solar masses per year. What initially triggers quenching, and what sustains the quiescent state thereafter, especially given the frequent presence of large gas reservoirs or even massive gas inflows, are unsolved key issues. Ultimately, the crucial connection between the galaxy life-cycle and the surrounding Intergalactic (IGM) and Circumgalactic (CGM) Medium remains largely unclear. Addressing these issues requires studying star formation, chemical enrichment, and quenching homogeneously up to high redshift. The upcoming AO-assisted Extremely Large Telescope (ELT), will deliver sharper and deeper data than the JWST. SHARP is a concept study for a near-IR (0.95-2.45 mu) spectrograph designed to fully exploit the capabilities of ELT. Designed for multi-object slit spectroscopy and multi-Integral Field spectroscopy, SHARP points to achieve angular resolutions (~30 mas) far superior to NIRSpec at JWST(100 mas) to decipher and reconstruct the life-cycle oa galaxies.

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HerS-3: An Exceptional Einstein Cross Reveals a Massive Dark Matter Halo

We present a study of HerS-3, a dusty star-forming galaxy at zspec = 3.0607, which is gravitationally amplified into an Einstein cross with a fifth image of the background galaxy seen at the center of the cross. Detailed 1-mm spectroscopy and imaging with NOEMA and ALMA resolve the individual images and show that each of the five images display a series of molecular lines that have similar central velocities, unambiguously confirming that they have identical redshifts. The HST F110W image reveals a foreground lensing group of four galaxies with a photometric redshift zphot~1.0. Lens models that only include the four visible galaxies are unable to reproduce the properties of HerS-3. By adding a fifth massive component, lying south-east of the brightest galaxy of the group, the source reconstruction is able to match the peak emission, shape and orientation for each of the five images. The fact that no galaxy is detected near that position indicates the presence of a massive dark matter halo in the lensing galaxy group. In the source plane, HerS-3 appears as an infrared luminous starburst galaxy seen nearly edge-on. The serendipitous discovery of this exceptional Einstein cross offers a potential laboratory for exploring at small spatial scales a nuclear starburst at the peak of cosmic evolution and studying the properties of a massive dark matter halo associated with the lensing galaxy group.

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From simulations to observations. Methodology and data release of mock TNG50 galaxies at 0.3 < z < 0.7 for WEAVE-StePS

The new generation of optical spectrographs (i.e., WEAVE, 4MOST, DESI, and WST) offer unprecedented opportunities for statistically studying the star formation histories of galaxies. However, these observations are not easily comparable to predictions from cosmological simulations. Our goal is to build a reference framework for comparing spectroscopic observations with simulations and test tools for deriving stellar population properties of galaxies. We focus on the observational strategy of the Stellar Population at Intermediate Redshift Survey (StePS) with the WEAVE instrument. We generate mock datasets of ~750 galaxies at redshifts z = 0.3, 0.5, and 0.7 using the TNG50 simulation, perform radiative transfer with SKIRT, and analyze the spectra with pPXF as if they were real observations. We present the methodology to generate these datasets and provide an initial exploration of stellar population parameters (i.e., mass-weighted ages and metallicities) and star formation histories for three galaxies at z = 0.7 and their descendants at z = 0.5 and 0.3. We find good agreement between the mock spectra and intrinsic ages in TNG50 (average difference $0.2\pm0.3$ Gyr) and successfully recover their star formation histories, especially for galaxies form the bulk of their stars on short timescales and at early epochs. We release these datasets, including multi-wavelength imaging and spectra, to support forthcoming WEAVE observations.

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Euclid Quick Data Release (Q1), A first look at the fraction of bars in massive galaxies at $z<1$

Stellar bars are key structures in disc galaxies, driving angular momentum redistribution and influencing processes such as bulge growth and star formation. Quantifying the bar fraction as a function of redshift and stellar mass is therefore important for constraining the physical processes that drive disc formation and evolution across the history of the Universe. Leveraging the unprecedented resolution and survey area of the Euclid Q1 data release combined with the Zoobot deep-learning model trained on citizen-science labels, we identify 7711 barred galaxies with $M_* \gtrsim 10^{10}M_\odot$ in a magnitude-selected sample $I_E < 20.5$ spanning $63.1 deg^2$. We measure a mean bar fraction of $0.2-0.4$, consistent with prior studies. At fixed redshift, massive galaxies exhibit higher bar fractions, while lower-mass systems show a steeper decline with redshift, suggesting earlier disc assembly in massive galaxies. Comparisons with cosmological simulations (e.g., TNG50, Auriga) reveal a broadly consistent bar fraction, but highlight overpredictions for high-mass systems, pointing to potential over-efficiency in central stellar mass build-up in simulations. These findings demonstrate Euclid's transformative potential for galaxy morphology studies and underscore the importance of refining theoretical models to better reproduce observed trends. Future work will explore finer mass bins, environmental correlations, and additional morphological indicators.

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Estimating Masses of Supermassive Black Holes in Active Galactic Nuclei from the Halpha Emission Line

The goal of this project is to construct an estimator for the masses of supermassive black holes in active galactic nuclei (AGNs) based on the broad Halpha emission line. We make use of published reverberation mapping data. We remeasure all Halpha time lags from the original data as we find that often the reverberation measurements are improved by detrending the light curves. We produce mass estimators that require only the Halpha luminosity and the width of the Halpha emission line as characterized by either the FWHM or the line dispersion. It is possible, on the basis of a single spectrum covering the Halpha emission line, to estimate the mass of the central supermassive black hole in AGNs, taking into account all three parameters believed to affect mass measurement: luminosity, line width, and Eddington ratio. The typical formal accuracy in such estimates is of order 0.2-0.3 dex.

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Looking into the faintEst WIth MUSE (LEWIS): Exploring the nature of ultra-diffuse galaxies in the Hydra I cluster III. Untangling UDG 32 from the stripped filaments of NGC 3314A with multi-wavelength data

UDG 32 is an ultra-diffuse galaxy (UDG) candidate in the Hydra I cluster that was discovered in the extended network of stellar filaments of the jellyfish galaxy NGC 3314A. This galaxy is affected by ram pressure stripping and it is hypothesised that UDG 32 may have formed from its stripped material. In this paper, we address whether UDG 32 can be associated with the stripped material of NGC 3314A and constrain its formation scenario in relation to its environment. We use new integral-field spectroscopic data from the MUSE large programme `LEWIS' in conjunction with deep multi-band photometry to constrain the kinematics and stellar populations of UDG 32. The new MUSE data allow us to reveal that the stripped material from NGC 3314A, traced by emission lines such as H$α$, extends much further from its parent galaxy than previously known, completely overlapping with UDG 32 in projection, and with ram pressure induced star formation. We determine the line-of-sight velocity of UDG 32 ($v_{\rm LOS} = 3080\pm120$ km/s) and confirm that UDG 32 is part of the same kinematic structure as NGC 3314A, the Hydra I cluster south-east subgroup. By fitting the UV and optical spectral energy distribution, we constrain the stellar population properties of UDG 32. We determine its mass-weighted age to be $7.7^{+2.9}_{-2.8}$ Gyr and its metallicity to be [M/H] = $0.07^{+0.19}_{-0.32}$ dex. We confirm the presence of two globular clusters (GCs) in the MUSE field of view, bound to the Hydra I cluster rather than to UDG 32, thus part of the Hydra I intracluster GC population. The metal-rich and intermediate-age nature of UDG 32 points towards its formation from pre-enriched material in the south-east group of the Hydra I cluster that was liberated from a more massive galaxy via tidal or ram-pressure stripping, but we cannot establish a direct link to the ram-pressure stripped material from NGC 3314A.

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The counter-rotating stellar core of NGC 4494

Context. Kinematically decoupled cores (KDCs) are often found in the centers of early-type galaxies. Aims. We aim to investigate the kinematics, structure, and stellar populations of the KDC residing in the early-type galaxy NGC 4494 to understand its formation. Methods. We used long-slit spectroscopic data obtained with the FORS2 instrument on the VLT to measure the stellar kinematics and stellar populations. We performed a spectroscopic decomposition to disentangle the properties of the KDC from those of the host galaxy and construct models of the observed rotation curve. Results. The rotation curve is characterized by two symmetric dips at |R|=6", where the rotation velocity drops to zero. Contrary to previous studies that explained the decoupled structure as a rapidly co-rotating disk, our analysis clearly shows that it is a counter-rotating component. A counter-rotating core is indeed needed to reproduce the observed dip in the velocity curve. The properties of the stellar populations of the decoupled core and the main galaxy are very similar: old stars (12-13 Gyr) with slightly super-solar metallicities (0<[Z/H]<0.15 dex) and alpha-enhanced (0 <[alpha/Fe]< 0.15 dex). Conclusions. Our results indicate that the counter-rotating component is a disk of about 1 kpc in diameter that is obscured by dust in the central 0.12 kpc. The properties of its stellar populations suggest that it formed from the same material as the main stellar body of the host galaxy. This could have happened via internal processes such as the precession of a pre-existing rotating core, or, alternatively, via gas accretion in retrograde orbits followed by star formation. In the latter scenario, the accretion event occurred almost simultaneously with the formation of the galaxy, using material that had the same composition as the gas from which the stars in the main body of the galaxy were formed.

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Retrieval of the physical parameters of galaxies from WEAVE-StePS-like data using machine learning

The WHT Enhanced Area Velocity Explorer (WEAVE) is a new, massively multiplexing spectrograph. This new instrument will be exploited to obtain high S/N spectra of $\sim$25000 galaxies at intermediate redshifts for the WEAVE Stellar Population Survey (WEAVE-StePS). We test machine learning methods for retrieving the key physical parameters of galaxies from WEAVE-StePS-like spectra using both photometric and spectroscopic information at various S/Ns and redshifts. We simulated $\sim$105000 galaxy spectra assuming SFH with an exponentially declining star formation rate, covering a wide range of ages, stellar metallicities, sSFRs, and dust extinctions. We then evaluated the ability of the random forest and KNN algorithms to correctly predict such parameters assuming no measurement errors. We checked how much the predictive ability deteriorates for different S/Ns and redshifts, finding that both algorithms still accurately estimate the ages and metallicities with low bias. The dispersion varies from 0.08-0.16 dex for ages and 0.11-0.25 dex for metallicity, depending on the redshift and S/N. For dust attenuation, we find a similarly low bias and dispersion. For the sSFR, we find a very good constraining power for star-forming galaxies, log sSFR$\gtrsim$ -11, where the bias is $\sim$ 0.01 dex and the dispersion is $\sim$ 0.10 dex. For more quiescent galaxies, with log sSFR$\lesssim$ -11, we find a higher bias, 0.61-0.86 dex, and a higher dispersion, $\sim$ 0.4 dex, for different S/Ns and redshifts. Generally, we find that the RF outperforms the KNN. Finally, the retrieved sSFR was used to successfully classify galaxies as part of the blue cloud, green valley, or red sequence. We demonstrate that machine learning algorithms can accurately estimate the physical parameters of simulated galaxies even at relatively low S/N=10 per angstrom spectra with available ancillary photometric information.

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The dynamical state of bars in cluster dwarf galaxies: The cases of NGC 4483 and NGC 4516

Dwarf barred galaxies are the perfect candidates for hosting slowly-rotating bars. They are common in dense environments and they have a relatively shallow potential well, making them prone to heating by interactions. When an interaction induces bar formation, the bar should rotate slowly. They reside in massive and centrally-concentrated dark matter halos, which slow down the bar rotation through dynamical friction. While predictions suggest that slow bars should be common, measurements of bar pattern speed, using the Tremaine-Weinberg method, show that bars are mostly fast in the local Universe. We present a photometric and kinematic characterisation of bars hosted by two dwarf galaxies in the Virgo Cluster, NGC 4483 and NGC 4516. We derive the bar length and strength using the Next Generation Virgo Survey imaging and the circular velocity, bar pattern speed, and rotation rate using spectroscopy from the Multi Unit Spectroscopic Explorer. Including the previously studied galaxy IC 3167, we compare the bar properties of the three dwarf galaxies with those of their massive counterparts from literature. Bars in the dwarf galaxies are shorter and weaker, and rotate slightly slower with respect to those in massive galaxies. This could be due to a different bar formation mechanism and/or to a large dark matter fraction in the centre of dwarf galaxies. We show that it is possible to push the application of the Tremaine-Weinberg method to the galaxy low mass regime.

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Exploring the origins of mega radio halos

We present a first attempt to investigate the origin of radio-emitting electrons in the newly discovered class of mega radio halos in clusters of galaxies. We study the evolution of relativistic electrons accreted by the external regions of a simulated cluster of galaxies at high resolution, including the effect of radiative losses and turbulent reacceleration acting on relativistic electrons. We conclude that turbulent reacceleration induced by structure formation, if sufficiently prolonged, has the potential to produce a large reservoir of radio-emitting electrons in the large regions illuminated by mega radio halos observed by LOFAR.

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Fossil group origins XIII. A paradigm shift: fossil groups as isolated structures rather than relics of the ancient Universe

In this work we study the large-scale structure around a sample of non-fossil systems and compare the results with earlier findings for a sample of genuine fossil systems selected using their magnitude gap. We compute the distance from each system to the closest filament and intersection as obtained from a catalogue of galaxies in the redshift range $0.05 \le z \le 0.7$. We then estimate the average distances and distributions of cumulative distances to filaments and intersections for different bins of magnitude gap. We find that the average distance to filaments is $(3.0\pm 0.8)$ $R_{200}$ for fossil systems, whereas it is $(1.1\pm 0.1)\,R_{200}$ for non-fossil systems. Similarly, the average distance to intersections is larger in fossil than in non-fossil systems, with values of $(16.3\pm 3.2)$ and $(8.9\pm 1.1) \,R_{200}$, respectively. Moreover, the cumulative distributions of distances to intersections are statistically different between fossil and non-fossil systems. Fossil systems selected using the magnitude gap appear to be, on average, more isolated from the cosmic web than non-fossil systems. No dependence is found on the magnitude gap (i.e. non-fossil systems behave in a similar manner independently of their magnitude gap and only fossils are found at larger average distances from the cosmic web). This result supports a formation scenario for fossil systems in which the lack of infalling galaxies from the cosmic web, due to their peculiar position, favours the building of the magnitude gap via the merging of all the massive satellites with the central galaxy. Comparison with numerical simulations suggests that fossil systems selected using the magnitude gap are not old fossils of the ancient Universe, but systems located in regions of the cosmic web not influenced by the presence of intersections.

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The bar rotation rate as a diagnostic of dark matter content in the centre of disc galaxies

We investigate the link between the bar rotation rate and dark matter content in barred galaxies by concentrating on the cases of the lenticular galaxies NGC4264 and NGC4277. These two gas-poor galaxies have similar morphologies, sizes, and luminosities. But, NGC4264 hosts a fast bar, which extends to nearly the corotation, while the bar embedded in NGC4277 is slow and falls short of corotation. We derive the fraction of dark matter $f_{\rm DM, bar}$ within the bar region from Jeans axisymmetric dynamical models by matching the stellar kinematics obtained with the MUSE integral-field spectrograph and using SDSS images to recover the stellar mass distribution. We build mass-follows-light models as well as mass models with a spherical halo of dark matter, which is not tied to the stars. We find that the inner regions of NGC4277 host a larger fraction of dark matter ($f_{\rm DM, bar} = 0.53 \pm 0.02$) with respect to NGC4264 ($f_{\rm DM, bar} = 0.33 \pm 0.04$) in agreement with the predictions of theoretical works and the findings of numerical simulations, which have found that fast bars live in baryon-dominated discs, whereas slow bars experienced a strong drag from the dynamical friction due to a dense DM halo. This is the first time that the bar rotation rate is coupled to $f_{\rm DM, bar}$ derived from dynamical modelling.

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The Fornax3D project: Environmental effects on the assembly of dynamically cold disks in Fornax cluster galaxies

We apply a population-orbit superposition method to 16 galaxies in the Fornax cluster observed with MUSE/VLT in the context of the Fornax3D project. By fitting the luminosity distribution, stellar kinematics, and age and metallicity maps simultaneously, we obtained the internal stellar orbit distribution, as well as the age and metallicity distribution of stars on different orbits for each galaxy. Based on the model, we decompose each galaxy into a dynamically cold disk (orbital circularity $λ_z\ge0.8$) and a dynamically hot non-disk component (orbital circularity $λ_z<0.8$), and obtain the surface-brightness, age, and metallicity radial profiles of each component. The galaxy infall time into the cluster is strongly correlated with galaxy cold-disk age with older cold disks in ancient infallers. We quantify the infall time $t_{\rm infall}$ of each galaxy with its cold-disk age using a correlation calibrated with TNG50 cosmological simulations. For galaxies in the Fornax cluster, we found that the luminosity fraction of cold disk in galaxies with $t_{\rm infall}>8$ Gyr are a factor of $\sim 4$ lower than in more recent infallers while controlling for total stellar mass. Nine of the 16 galaxies have spatially extended cold disks, and most of them show positive or zero age gradients; stars in the inner disk are $\sim 2-5$ Gyr younger than that in the outer disk, in contrast to the expectation of inside-out growth. Our results indicate that the assembly of cold disks in galaxies is strongly affected by their infall into clusters, by either removal of gas in outer regions or even tidally stripping or heating part of the pre-existing disks. Star formation in outer disks can stop quickly after the galaxy falls into the cluster, while star formation in the inner disks can last for a few Gyrs more, building the positive age gradient measured in cold disks.

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WEAVE-StePS. A stellar population survey using WEAVE at WHT

The upcoming new generation of optical spectrographs on four-meter-class telescopes will provide valuable opportunities for forthcoming galaxy surveys through their huge multiplexing capabilities, excellent spectral resolution, and unprecedented wavelength coverage. WEAVE is a new wide-field spectroscopic facility mounted on the 4.2 m William Herschel Telescope in La Palma. WEAVE-StePS is one of the five extragalactic surveys that will use WEAVE during its first five years of operations. It will observe galaxies using WEAVE MOS (~950 fibres across a field of view of ~3 deg2 on the sky) in low-resolution mode (R~5000, spanning the wavelength range 3660-9590 AA). WEAVE-StePS will obtain high-quality spectra (S/N ~ 10 per AA at R~5000) for a magnitude-limited (I_AB = 20.5) sample of ~25,000 galaxies, the majority selected at z>=0.3. The survey goal is to provide precise spectral measurements in the crucial interval that bridges the gap between LEGA-C and SDSS data. The wide area coverage of ~25 deg2 will enable us to observe galaxies in a variety of environments. The ancillary data available in each observed field (including X-ray coverage, multi-narrow-band photometry and spectroscopic redshift information) will provide an environmental characterisation for each observed galaxy. This paper presents the science case of WEAVE-StePS, the fields to be observed, the parent catalogues used to define the target sample, and the observing strategy chosen after a forecast of the expected performance of the instrument for our typical targets. WEAVE-StePS will go back further in cosmic time than SDSS, extending its reach to encompass more than ~6 Gyr, nearly half of the age of the Universe. The spectral and redshift range covered by WEAVE-StePS will open a new observational window by continuously tracing the evolutionary path of galaxies in the largely unexplored intermediate-redshift range.

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The survival of stellar discs in Fornax-like environments, from TNG50 to real galaxies

We study the evolution of kinematically-defined stellar discs in 10 Fornax-like clusters identified in the TNG50 run from the IllustrisTNG suite of cosmological simulations. We considered disc galaxies with present-day stellar mass $M_{\star}\geq 3 \times 10^{8} M_{\odot}$ and follow their evolution since first entering their host cluster. Very few stellar discs survive since falling in such dense environments, ranging from 40% surviving to all being disrupted. Such survival rates are consistent with what reported earlier for the two more massive, Virgo-like clusters in TNG50. In absolute terms, however, the low number of present-day disc galaxies in Fornax-like clusters could be at odds with the presence of three edge-on disc galaxies in the central regions of the actual Fornax cluster, as delineated by the Fornax3D survey. When looking at the Fornax analogues from random directions and with the same selection function of Fornax3D, the probability of finding three edge-on disc galaxies in any one Fornax-like cluster in TNG50 is rather low, albeit not impossible. We also compared the stellar-population properties near the equatorial plane derived from integral-field spectroscopy for the three edge-ons in Fornax to similar line-of-sight integrated values for present-day disc galaxies in TNG50. For one of these, the very old and metal-rich stellar population of its disc cannot be matched by any the disc galaxies in TNG50, including objects in the field. We discuss possible interpretations of these findings, while pointing to future studies on passive cluster spirals as a way to further test state-of-the-art cosmological simulations.

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