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Helmut Jerjen

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Detectability of Satellite Planes in Mock Observations of Isolated L* Galaxies

The existence and prevalence of planar, co-rotating distributions of satellite galaxies around L* host galaxies in the local universe remains a subject of ongoing debate. Despite numerous observational efforts over the past decade, a statistically robust sample of "satellite planes" across the diversity of host galaxy environments is lacking. To guide future observing strategies, we construct a controlled suite of mock observations of on-sky positions and line-of-sight (LOS) velocities of isolated L* host galaxies and their satellite systems, based on samples drawn from the Illustris TNG100-1 cosmological simulation to build a statistical sample. In these mock systems, satellite planes are defined by three key parameters: the number of satellites ($N_{\mathrm{sat}}$), the fraction residing in a thin co-rotating plane ($f_{p}$), and the orientation angle relative to the observer ($\theta_{\mathrm{rot}}$). We evaluate the sensitivity of three observational metrics, $N_{\mathrm{cor}}$ (number of co-rotating satellites), $b/a$ (projected flattening of the satellite distribution), and $v_\mathrm{los}$ (mean absolute LOS velocity), to the presence of such planes. Our results show that detection rates are strongly dependent on $\theta_{\mathrm{rot}}$ and $N_{\mathrm{sat}}$. Satellite planes that are viewed nearly edge-on or face-on, are the most readily detected. In contrast, intermediate orientations and systems with fewer satellites yield low detection success rates. Generally, only satellite planes with $N_{\mathrm{sat}}>20$ have high chances of being detected. These findings provide a practical framework for prioritising observational targets and designing future surveys aimed at detecting and characterising satellite planes.

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Rubin Data Preview 1: Extending the View of Unresolved Binary Stars in 47 Tucanae

Until now, the study of unresolved main sequence binary stars in globular clusters has been possible almost exclusively in their central regions with deep Hubble Space Telescope (HST) observations. We present the first detection of unresolved main-sequence binary stars in the outer field of 47 Tucanae using Rubin Observatory's Data Preview 1 (DP1). Our analysis exploits deep $i$ vs. $g-i$ colour-magnitude diagrams beyond the cluster's half-light radius, reaching almost to the tidal radius. The high-quality photometry allowed to identify unresolved binaries with mass ratios $q$ larger than 0.7. The derived binary fraction of $f_\mathrm{bin}(q>0.7) = 0.016 \pm 0.005$ stands in contrast to the significantly lower values in the cluster innermost regions, as measured from HST photometry. This result provides new empirical input for testing physical processes that drive the formation and evolution of binary stars in globular clusters. It also demonstrates Rubin's unique wide-field and high-precision photometric capabilities to address a broader range of outstanding questions in star cluster research. Future full data releases will enable to significantly expand the study of dense stellar systems across the Milky Way.

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The coherent satellite velocity field around the interacting spiral galaxy pair NGC5713/19: signature of two galaxy groups merging

The luminous spirals NGC5713 and NGC5719 form an interacting galaxy pair 94 kpc apart and are connected by a straight, elongated neutral hydrogen structure extending over 200 kpc. Their 14 velocity-confirmed satellite galaxies and the two hosts separate into two distinct subgroups in their line-of-sight velocities and on-sky distribution revealing a prominent coherent kinematic structure with a velocity amplitude of 67+-12 kms-1 . We test four scenarios to explain the observed velocity field: isotropic motions in a dark matter halo, a plane of satellites seen nearly face-on, and a kinematically mixed satellite system with a co-rotating edge-on plane and an isotropic component, and a merger of two small galaxy groups. Taking the geometry and dynamical state of the NGC5713/19 pair into account together with their positions and motions in the Bootes Strip the most consistent picture is the infall of two satellite systems that follow their host galaxies along a cosmic filament. We believe this is the first clear example of an equal-mass L* disk galaxy merger where a kinematically coherent satellite system is in the process of formation. These observations reinforce the importance of major mergers as a channel for producing co-rotating satellite systems.

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New dwarf galaxy candidates in the M106, NGC3521, and UGCA127 groups with the Hyper Suprime Camera

The local universe is still full of hidden dwarf galaxies to be discovered using deep imaging campaigns. Here we present the third paper in a series to search for low-surface brightness dwarf galaxies around nearby isolated luminous host galaxies with the Subaru Hyper Suprime Camera. Based on visual inspection, we found 11, 0, 4, and 6 dwarf galaxy candidates around M106, NGC2903, NGC3521, and UGCA127, respectively. This adds to the 40 candidates around M104 and 4 candidates around NGC2683 found in the previous papers. Artificial galaxy experiments show that we are complete down to a mean effective surface brightness of 26 mag/arcsec$^2$. The new dwarf galaxy candidates follow known scaling relation in size, surface brightness and luminosity, making them good candidates based on their morphology and photometric properties. We trace the luminosity function of these galaxies down to magnitude of $\approx-$9 in the V band for all galaxies targeted in our survey footprint so far. While the most massive galaxy (M104) has a significant higher abundance of dwarfs, NGC3521, NGC2903, and NGC2683 have a similar luminosity function as the Milky Way. These latter three galaxies also have a similar stellar mass and might be considered Milky Way analogs. UGCA127 is a low-mass galaxy but almost reaches the same number of dwarfs as the Milky Way at our limiting magnitude. We have searched for hints of lopsidedness in the satellite distributions, but found none to be significant. The next step will be to confirm these members through either distance or velocity measurements.

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IFUM Integrated Field Spectroscopy of Ten M104 Satellite Galaxy Candidates

We report the spectroscopic analysis of ten satellite galaxy candidates in the sphere of influence of the Sombrero galaxy (M104, NGC4594), based on data obtained with IFUM (Integral Field Units for Magellan). Based on their newly-observed recessional velocities, we confirm that nine of these candidates are satellite galaxies of M104, with one being a background dwarf galaxy. All ten dwarfs have stellar masses $2\times10^{7}\,M_{\odot}$ to $1\times10^{9}\,M_{\odot}$ and mean weighted metallicities $-1.7<\langle{[\mathrm{M/H}]}\rangle<-0.3$. Although these dwarfs are predominantly old, with stellar populations $\sim5-11\,$Gyr. However, this sample contains a local example of a low-mass "Green Pea" candidate, it exhibits extreme optical emission features and broad emission line features ($\sigma\sim250\,\mathrm{km\,s^{-1}}$) reminiscent of high-redshift Ly$\alpha$/LyC photon leaking galaxies. Using the newly-acquired recessional velocities of the nine satellites of M104, we find no evidence of coherent satellite motions unlike other nearby $L_*$ galaxy environments. Given the small sample, this results does not statistically rule out such coherent motions. There remain 60 satellite candidates of M104 for which future spectroscopy can more reliably test for such motion. Using the observed dwarf galaxies as tracers of the gravitational potential of M104, we estimate the dynamical mass of M104, $M_{dyn}=(12.4\pm6.5)\times10^{12}M_{\odot}$, and find that, making a reasonable estimate of M104's gas mass, $>90\%$ of its baryons are missing. These results agree with previous measurements of M104's dynamical mass.

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On the origin of the Hercules group: II. the Trojan quasi-periodic identity on the orbital level

The Hercules kinematic group is a stellar anomaly structure observed in the solar neighbourhood (SNd). In the previous paper, we analysed chemical signatures and related the origin of this stellar population to the outer bar. Next to consider is how this alien population migrate out into the SNd. Often, this kinematic structure is associated with bar resonances. In this paper, We consider the driving mechanism of Hercules on the orbital level. We construct a simple Milky Way-like potential model with a slowly rotating long bar and explore some of the stellar orbit families and their stability. With this model, our numerical solutions of the equations of motion show that quasi-periodic orbits trapped around fast-rotating periodic Trojan orbits around the L4 Lagrange point of the bar minor axis can pass through the SNd. When observed in the SNd, they populate the Hercules structure in the $L_Z$-$V_R$ kinematics space. Moreover, the variation in radial coverage in the galactic plane with the SNd kinematics shows good agreement with chemical signatures found in Paper I. Furthermore, the effective potential shows the topology of a volcano, the rim of which limits most orbits to stay inside or outside. Trojan orbits are a stable orbit family that can transport inner Galactic stars out to the SNd. They can explain the stellar kinematics of Hercules, and provide a straightforward basis for its chemical properties. We support that Trojan orbits associated with the slowly rotating Galactic bar explain the Hercules structure observed in the SNd.

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On the origin of the Hercules group: I. chemical signatures indicating the outer bar origin

The Hercules kinematic group is a kinematic anomaly of stars observed in the solar neighbourhood (SNd). In this series of papers, we present a comprehensive study of this structure. This paper focuses on its chemical signatures over several groups of elements. The next paper discusses its kinematical properties. While studies suggested a non-native origin of Hercules stars due to the distinct chemical and kinematic features, previous studies focussed mainly on the Fe abundances. We adopt chemical data with abundances of elements from GALAH and APOGEE to seek further chemical implications on the origin. Our analysis reveals that the low alpha population of the low angular momentum Hercules group is significantly enhanced in iron-peak (Fe, Ni, Mn) and Odd-Z (Na, Al) elements, and slightly deficient in alpha elements (O, Ca, Ti) compared to kinematically local stars. The super enhancement in iron-peak elements and deficiency in alpha elements support their origin from the outer thin bar in the inner Galaxy. Moreover, the enhancement in Na and Al indicates these stars as the youngest stars in the old sequence from the inner thick disc. Hence, the origin of these stars can be related to the outer bar region. These chemical signatures require the underlying dynamical mechanism that forms the Hercules group to be capable of transporting stars in the inner Galaxy out to the SNd. The next paper will consider the Trojan orbits as the favoured mechanism.

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Lopsided distribution of MATLAS and ELVES dwarf satellite systems around isolated host galaxies

The properties of satellite dwarf galaxies pose important empirical constraints to verify cosmological models on galaxy scales. Their phase-space correlations, in particular, offer interesting insights into various models. Next to the planes-of-satellites phenomenon, the lopsided distribution of satellites relative to their host galaxy has been studied observationally and in cosmological simulations. It is still unclear how observed lopsidedness aligns with expectations from simulations. We measure lopsidedness in observed isolated satellite systems using six different metrics. We study 47 systems from the MATLAS survey beyond the Local Volume (LV) as well as 21 LV satellite systems from the ELVES survey. We find that the so-called wedge metric, counting the number of dwarfs in wedges with varying opening angles, is best suited to capture a system's overall lopsidedness. Under this metric, our analysis reveals that ~16 percent of the tested satellite systems exhibit a statistically significant degree of lopsidedness when compared to systems with randomly generated satellite position angles. This presents a notable excess over the expected 5% (2 sigma level) of significantly lopsided systems in a sample with no overall inherent lopsidedness. However, using multiple metrics provides a more complete picture. Combining all tested metrics, the number of significantly lopsided systems increases to ~21 percent. Contrary to recent results from the literature, we find more lopsided systems among the red early-type galaxies in the MATLAS survey compared to the mostly blue late-type hosts in ELVES. We further find that satellite galaxies at larger distances from the host, potentially recently accreted, are likely the primary contributors to the reported excess of lopsidedness. Our results enable comparisons with similar systems in simulations to assess consistency with the standard model.

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New dwarf galaxy candidates in the sphere of influence of the Sombrero galaxy

We report the discovery of 40 new satellite dwarf galaxy candidates in the sphere of influence of the Sombrero galaxy (M104) the most luminous galaxy in the Local Volume. Using the Subaru Hyper Suprime-Cam, we surveyed 14.4 square degrees of its surroundings, extending to the virial radius. Visual inspection of the deep images and GALFIT modelling yielded a galaxy sample highly complete down to $M_{g}\sim-9$ ($L_{g}\sim3\times 10^{5}\,L_\odot$) and spanning magnitudes $-16.4 < M_g < -8$ and half-light radii $50\,pc\ <\ r_e\ <\ 1600\,pc$ assuming the distance of M104. These 40 new, out of which 27 are group members with high confidence, double the number of potential satellites of M104 within the virial radius, placing it among the richest hosts in the Local Volume. Using a Principle Component Analysis (PCA), we find that the entire sample of candidates consistent with an almost circular on-sky distribution, more circular than any comparable environment found in the Illustris TNG100-1 simulation. However the distribution of the high probability sample is more oblate and consistent with the simulation. The cumulative satellite luminosity function is broadly consistent with analogues from the simulation, albeit it contains no bright satellite with $M_{g}<-16.4$ ($L_{g}\sim3 \times 10^{8}\,L_\odot$), a $2.3\,\sigma$ occurrence. Follow-up spectroscopy to confirm group membership will begin to demonstrate how these systems can act as probes of the structure and formation history of the halo of M104.

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Is there a dwarf galaxy satellite-of-satellite problem in $\Lambda$CDM?

Dark matter clusters on all scales, therefore it is expected that even substructure should host its own substructure. Using the Extragalactic Distance Database, we searched for dwarf galaxy satellites of dwarf galaxies, i.e. satellite-of-satellite galaxies, corresponding to these substructures-of-substructure. Going through HST data of 117 dwarf galaxies, we report the discovery of a dwarf galaxy around the ultra-diffuse M96 companion M96-DF6 at 10 Mpc. Modelling its structural parameters, we find that it is an ultra-faint dwarf galaxy which is 135 times fainter than its host. Based on its close projection to M96-DF6 it is unlikely that their association occurs by chance. We compare the luminosity ratio of this and three other known satellite-of-satellite systems with results from two different cosmological sets of CDM simulations. For the observed stellar mass range of the central dwarf galaxies, the simulated dwarfs have a higher luminosity ratio between the central dwarf and its first satellite ($\approx$10'000) than observed ($\approx$100), excluding the LMC system. No simulated dwarf analog at these observed stellar masses has the observed luminosity ratio. This cannot be due to missing resolution, because it is the brightest subhalos that are missing. This may indicate that there is a satellite-of-satellite (SoS) problem for CDM in the stellar mass range between 10$^6$ and 10$^8$ M$_\odot$ - the regime of the classical dwarf galaxies. However, simulated dwarf models at both a lower ($<10^6$ M$_\odot$) and higher ($>10^8$ M$_\odot$) stellar mass have comparable luminosity ratios. For the higher stellar mass systems, the LMC system is reproduced by simulations, for the lower stellar masses, no observed SoS system has been observed to date. More observations and simulations of SoS systems are needed to assess whether the luminosity ratio is at odds with CDM.

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Detailed chemical abundances of stars in the outskirts of the Tucana II ultra-faint dwarf galaxy

We present chemical abundances and velocities of five stars between 0.3 kpc to 1.1 kpc from the center of the Tucana II ultra-faint dwarf galaxy (UFD) from high-resolution Magellan/MIKE spectroscopy. We find that every star is deficient in metals (-3.6 < [Fe/H] < -1.9) and in neutron-capture elements as is characteristic of UFD stars, unambiguously confirming their association with Tucana II. Other chemical abundances (e.g., C, iron-peak) largely follow UFD trends and suggest that faint core-collapse supernovae (SNe) dominated the early evolution of Tucana II. We see a downturn in [$\alpha$/Fe] at [Fe/H] $\approx -2.8$, indicating the onset of Type Ia SN enrichment and somewhat extended chemical evolution. The most metal-rich star has strikingly low [Sc/Fe] = $-1.29 \pm 0.48$ and [Mn/Fe] = $-1.33 \pm 0.33$, implying significant enrichment by a sub-Chandrasekhar mass Type Ia SN. We do not detect a radial velocity gradient in Tucana II ($\text{d}v_{\text{helio}}/\text{d}\theta_1=-2.6^{+3.0}_{-2.9}$ km s$^{-1}$ kpc$^{-1}$) reflecting a lack of evidence for tidal disruption, and derive a dynamical mass of $M_{1/2} (r_h) = 1.6^{+1.1}_{-0.7}\times 10^6$ M$_{\odot}$. We revisit formation scenarios of the extended component of Tucana II in light of its stellar chemical abundances. We find no evidence that Tucana II had abnormally energetic SNe, suggesting that if SNe drove in-situ stellar halo formation then other UFDs should show similar such features. Although not a unique explanation, the decline in [$\alpha$/Fe] is consistent with an early galactic merger triggering later star formation. Future observations may disentangle such formation channels of UFD outskirts.

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The Cen A galaxy group: dynamical mass and missing baryons

The nearby elliptical galaxy Cen A is surrounded by a flattened system of dwarf satellite galaxies with coherent motions. Using a novel Bayesian approach, we measure the mean rotation velocity $v_{\rm rot}$ and velocity dispersion $\sigma_{\rm int}$ of the satellite system. We find $v_{\rm rot}/\sigma_{\rm int} \simeq 0.7$ indicating that the satellite system has non-negligible rotational support. Using Jeans' equations, we measure a circular velocity of 258 km s$^{-1}$ and a dynamical mass of $1.2\times 10^{13}$ M$_\odot$ within 800 kpc. In a $\Lambda$CDM cosmological context, we find that the Cen A group has a baryon fraction $M_{\rm b}/M_{200}\simeq0.035$ and is missing $\sim$77$\%$ of the cosmologically available baryons. Consequently, Cen A should have a hot intergalactic medium with a mass of $\sim$8$\times$10$^{11}$ M$_\odot$, which is more than $\sim$20 times larger than current X-ray estimates. Intriguingly, The whole Cen A group lies on the baryonic Tully-Fisher relation defined by individual rotationally supported galaxies, as expected in Milgromian dynamics (MOND) with no need of missing baryons.

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The coherent motion of Cen A dwarf satellite galaxies remains a challenge for $\Lambda$CDM cosmology

The plane-of-satellites problem is one of the most severe small-scale challenges for the standard $\Lambda$CDM cosmological model: several dwarf galaxies around the Milky Way and Andromeda co-orbit in thin, planar structures. A similar case has been identified around the nearby elliptical galaxy Centaurus A (Cen A). In this Letter, we study the satellite system of Cen A adding twelve new galaxies with line-of-sight velocities from VLT/MUSE observations. We find 21 out of 28 dwarf galaxies with measured velocities share a coherent motion. Similarly flattened and coherently moving structures are found only in 0.2% of Cen A analogs in the Illustris-TNG100 cosmological simulation, independently of whether we use its dark-matter-only or hydrodynamical run. These analogs are not co-orbiting, and arise only by chance projection, thus they are short-lived structures in such simulations. Our findings indicate that the observed co-rotating planes of satellites are a persistent challenge for $\Lambda$CDM, which is largely independent from baryon physics.

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An extended halo around an ancient dwarf galaxy

The Milky Way is surrounded by dozens of ultra-faint (< $10^5$ solar luminosities) dwarf satellite galaxies. They are the surviving remnants of the earliest galaxies, as confirmed by their ancient (~13 billion years old) and chemically primitive stars. Simulations suggest that these systems formed within extended dark matter halos and experienced early galaxy mergers and supernova feedback. However, the signatures of these events would lie outside their core regions (>2 half-light radii), which are spectroscopically unstudied due to the sparseness of their distant stars. Here we identify members of the Tucana II ultra-faint dwarf galaxy in its outer region (up to 9 half-light radii), demonstrating the system to be dramatically more spatially extended and chemically primitive than previously found. These distant stars are extremely metal-poor (<[Fe/H]>=-3.02; less than ~1/1000th of the solar iron abundance), affirming Tucana II as the most metal-poor known galaxy. We observationally establish, for the first time, an extended dark matter halo surrounding an ultra-faint dwarf galaxy out to one kiloparsec, with a total mass of >$10^7$ solar masses. This measurement is consistent with the expected ~2x$10^7$ solar masses using a generalized NFW density profile. The extended nature of Tucana II suggests that it may have undergone strong bursty feedback or been the product of an early galactic merger. We demonstrate that spatially extended stellar populations, which other ultra-faint dwarfs hint at hosting as well, are observable in principle and open the possibility for detailed studies of the stellar halos of relic galaxies.

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The properties of dwarf spheroidal galaxies in the Cen A group: Stellar populations, internal dynamics, and a heart-shaped Halpha ring

Dwarf spheroidal galaxies (dSphs) have been extensively investigated in the Local Group, but their low luminosity and surface brightness make similar work in more distant galaxy groups challenging. Modern instrumentation unlocks the possibility of scrutinizing these faint systems in other environments, expanding the parameter space of group properties. We use MUSE spectroscopy to study the properties of 14 known or suspected dSph satellites of Cen A. Twelve targets are confirmed to be group members based on their radial velocities. Two targets are background galaxies at 50 Mpc: KK 198 is a face-on spiral galaxy, and dw1315-45 is an ultra-diffuse galaxy with an effective radius of 2300 pc. The 12 confirmed dSph members of the Cen A group have old and metal-poor stellar populations and follow the stellar metallicity-luminosity relation defined by the dwarf galaxies in the Local Group. In the three brightest dwarf galaxies (KK 197, KKs 55, and KKs 58), we identify globular clusters, as well as a planetary nebula in KK 197, although its association with this galaxy and/or the extended halo of Cen A is uncertain. Using four discrete tracers, we measure the velocity dispersion and dynamical mass of KK 197. This dSph appears dark matter dominated and lies on the radial acceleration relation of star-forming galaxies within the uncertainties. It also is consistent with predictions stemming from modified Newtonian dynamics (MOND). Surprisingly, in the dwarf KK 203 we find an extended Halpha ring. Careful examination of Hubble Space Telescope photometry reveals a very low level of star formation at ages between 30-300 Myr. The Halpha emission is most likely linked to a 40 Myr old supernova remnant, although other possibilities for its origin cannot be entirely ruled out.

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The abundance of dwarf galaxies around low-mass giants in the Local Volume

The abundance of satellite dwarf galaxies has long been considered a crucial test for the current model of cosmology leading to the well-known missing satellite problem. Recent advances in both simulations and observations have allowed to study dwarf galaxies around host galaxies in more detail. We have surveyed a 72 deg2 area of the nearby Sculptor group using the Dark Energy Camera - also encompassing the two low-mass Local Volume galaxies NGC24 and NGC45 residing behind the group - to search for hitherto undetected dwarf galaxies. Apart from the previously known dwarf galaxies we have found only two new candidates down to a 3 sigma surface brightness detection limit of 27.4 r mag arcsec-2. Both systems are in projection close to NGC24. However, one of these candidates could be an ultra-diffuse galaxy associated to a background galaxy. We compared the number of known dwarf galaxy candidates around NGC24, NGC45, and five other well-studied low-mass giant galaxies (NGC 1156, NGC2403, NGC5023, M33, and the LMC) with predictions from cosmological simulations and found that for the stellar-to-halo mass models considered, the observed satellite numbers tend to be on the lower end of the expected range. This could either mean that there is an over-prediction of luminous subhalos in LambdaCDM or - and more likely - that we are missing some of the satellite members due to observational biases.

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Stellar metallicities from SkyMapper photometry I: A study of the Tucana II ultra-faint dwarf galaxy

We present a study of the ultra-faint Milky Way dwarf satellite galaxy Tucana II using deep photometry from the 1.3m SkyMapper telescope at Siding Spring Observatory, Australia. The SkyMapper filter-set contains a metallicity-sensitive intermediate-band $v$ filter covering the prominent Ca II K feature at 3933.7A. When combined with photometry from the SkyMapper $u, g$, and $i$ filters, we demonstrate that $v$ band photometry can be used to obtain stellar metallicities with a precision of $\sim0.20$dex when [Fe/H] $> -2.5$, and $\sim0.34$dex when [Fe/H] $< -2.5$. Since the $u$ and $v$ filters bracket the Balmer Jump at 3646A, we also find that the filter-set can be used to derive surface gravities. We thus derive photometric metallicities and surface gravities for all stars down to a magnitude of $g\sim20$ within $\sim$75 arcminutes of Tucana II. Photometric metallicity and surface gravity cuts remove nearly all foreground contamination. By incorporating Gaia proper motions, we derive quantitative membership probabilities which recover all known members on the red giant branch of Tucana II. Additionally, we identify multiple likely new members in the center of the system and candidate members several half-light radii from the center of the system. Finally, we present a metallicity distribution function derived from the photometric metallicities of likely Tucana II members. This result demonstrates the utility of wide-field imaging with the SkyMapper filter-set in studying UFDs, and in general, low surface brightness populations of metal-poor stars. Upcoming work will clarify the membership status of several distant stars identified as candidate members of Tucana II.

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Metal-poor nuclear star clusters in two dwarf galaxies near Centaurus A suggesting formation from the in-spiraling of globular clusters

Studies of nucleated dwarf galaxies can constrain the scenarios for the formation and evolution of nuclear star clusters (NSC) in low-mass galaxies and give us insights on the origin of ultra compact dwarf galaxies (UCDs). We report the discovery of a NSC in the dwarf galaxy KKs58 and investigate its properties together with those of another NSC in KK197. Both NSCs are hosted by dwarf elliptical galaxies of the Centaurus group. Combining ESO VLT MUSE data with photometry from VLT FORS2, CTIO Blanco DECam, and HST ACS, as well as high-resolution spectroscopy from VLT UVES, we analyse the photometric, kinematic and stellar population properties of the NSCs and their host galaxies. We confirm membership of the NSCs based on their radial velocities and location close to the galaxy centres. We also confirm the membership of two globular clusters (GCs) and detect oblate rotation in the main body of KK197. Based on high signal-to-noise spectra taken with MUSE of the NSCs of both KKs58 and KK197 we measure low metallicities, [Fe/H] = $-1.75 \pm 0.06$ dex and [Fe/H] = $-1.84 \pm 0.05$ dex, and stellar masses of $7.3 \times 10^5 M_\odot$ and $1.0 \times 10^6 M_\odot$, respectively. Both NSCs are more metal-poor than their hosts that have metallicities of $-1.35 \pm 0.23$ dex (KKs58) and $-0.84 \pm 0.12$ dex (KK197). This can be interpreted as NSC formation via the in-spiral of GCs. The masses, sizes and metallicities of the two NSCs place them among other NSCs, but also among the known UCDs of the Centaurus group. This indicates that NSCs might constitute the progenitors of a part of the low-mass UCDs, although their properties are almost indistinguishable from typical GCs.

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