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arXiv · 1608.07045

The dilemma of turbulence modelling

Abstract

A new construction technique of multiple solutions of the Euler equa- tion in strong spaces is introduced which reveals the relationship to multi- ple Navier Stokes equation solutions with special force terms while avoid- ing viscosity limit constructions. This shows that severe restrictions have to be imposed on time dependent external force terms in order to ob- tain uniqueness for the Navier Stokes equation Cauchy problem. Such restrictions are imposed in the statement of the so-called millenium prob- lem. Minimal turbulence models should arguably incorporate weaker force terms in order to account for boundary conditions and forces. However, we show that models of this type which have been proposed recently, do not have a unique solution. This lack of determinism of mimimal turbu- lence models indicates a dilemma: either models are too simple to capture turbulence but may have unique smooth solutions, or there is a modelling gap as the model does not determine a unique solution.

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Joerg Kampen. 2016-08-25. The dilemma of turbulence modelling. https://arxiv.org/abs/1608.07045

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