Finite and profinite groups with small Engel sinks of p-elements

Lucas Dal Berto; Jhone Caldeira; Pavel Shumyatsky

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Finite and profinite groups with small Engel sinks of p-elements

Lucas Dal Berto·Jhone Caldeira·Pavel Shumyatsky

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A (left) Engel sink of an element g of a group G is a subset containing all sufficiently long commutators [...[[x,g],g],...,g], where x ranges over G. We prove that if p is a prime and G a finite group in which, for some positive integer m, every p-element has an Engel sink of cardinality at most m, then G has a normal subgroup N such that G/N is a p'-group and the index [N:O_p(G)] is bounded in terms of m only. Furthermore, if G is a profinite group in which every p-element possesses a finite Engel sink, then G has a normal subgroup N such that N is virtually pro-p while G/N is a pro-p' group.

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Lucas Dal Berto, Jhone Caldeira, Pavel Shumyatsky. 2025-07-08. Finite and profinite groups with small Engel sinks of p-elements. https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.01409

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