Searcharxiv⌕ Search

arXiv · 2610.29410

ECHO: Emergent Common-Mode Hidden Offsets Drive Vocabulary Collapse in Preference Optimization

Abstract

Preference optimization can improve every ranking metric while building a hidden, shared representation shift that the relative loss barely sees, one that can eventually destroy generation. We trace this failure to the common-mode offset, a shared directional shift in the model's hidden states that appears across token positions, prompts, and both chosen and rejected responses. Because it moves chosen and rejected representations together, the relative ranking loss barely reacts to its accumulation. As this offset grows, it projects onto the output layer to form a vocabulary well, elevating a single token's probability until it dominates decoding and causes generation collapse. The isolated offset alone reconstructs the vocabulary well, injecting the learned offset into an untreated base model recreates the collapse where norm-matched random directions do not, and masking this common component from the loss prevents the well in our flagship setting. Under the per-token ranking loss we study, the same collapse appears in 14 of 17 base-model lineages and under full-parameter fine-tuning. Moreover, the offset is not merely an artifact of collapse, since it is already present in textbook DPO and SimPO runs that form no well. Textbook DPO keeps it weakly aligned with any single vocabulary direction even with three times our base budget. Trained from base models for that budget, however, full-parameter SimPO drives it into collapse on both Llama-2 and Llama-3.1, and the same kind of offset grows, without a well, from a public SFT checkpoint under the official SimPO recipe. Across 17 UltraFeedback runs, the better a run ranks held-out responses, the less often two public reward models prefer its samples to the base model's. These findings expose a blind spot in standard ranking metrics and introduce a representation-level signal that can warn of generation collapse before it occurs.

Explore related subjects

Keep this discovery

Explore connections, maps & timelines

BibTeXRIS

Yun Li, Ehsan Javanmardi, Simon Thompson, Jiachen Gong, Qunli Zhang, Zifan Zeng, Shiming Liu, Peng Wang, Zixuan Guo, Manabu Tsukada. 2026-10-21. ECHO: Emergent Common-Mode Hidden Offsets Drive Vocabulary Collapse in Preference Optimization. https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.29410

Cite the original work for its findings. Save a collection to share your selection of sources.

KEEP EXPLORING

Related papers

From Statistical Methods to Pre-Trained Models; A Survey on Automatic Speech Recognition for Resource Scarce Urdu Language

Automatic Speech Recognition (ASR) technology has witnessed significant advancements in recent years, revolutionizing human-computer interactions. While major languages have benefited from these developments, lesser-resourced languages like Urdu face unique challenges. This paper provides an extensive exploration of the dynamic landscape of ASR research, focusing particularly on the resource-constrained Urdu language, which is widely spoken across South Asian nations. It outlines current research trends, technological advancements, and potential directions for future studies in Urdu ASR, aiming to pave the way for forthcoming researchers interested in this domain. By leveraging contemporary technologies, analyzing existing datasets, and evaluating effective algorithms and tools, the paper seeks to shed light on the unique challenges and opportunities associated with Urdu language processing and its integration into the broader field of speech research.

cs.CL↗

Joint Detection of Fraud and Concept Drift inOnline Conversations with LLM-Assisted Judgment

Detecting fake interactions in digital communication platforms remains a challenging and insufficiently addressed problem. These interactions may appear as harmless spam or escalate into sophisticated scam attempts, making it difficult to flag malicious intent early. Traditional detection methods often rely on static anomaly detection techniques that fail to adapt to dynamic conversational shifts. One key limitation is the misinterpretation of benign topic transitions referred to as concept drift as fraudulent behavior, leading to either false alarms or missed threats. We propose a two stage detection framework that first identifies suspicious conversations using a tailored ensemble classification model. To improve the reliability of detection, we incorporate a concept drift analysis step using a One Class Drift Detector (OCDD) to isolate conversational shifts within flagged dialogues. When drift is detected, a large language model (LLM) assesses whether the shift indicates fraudulent manipulation or a legitimate topic change. In cases where no drift is found, the behavior is inferred to be spam like. We validate our framework using a dataset of social engineering chat scenarios and demonstrate its practical advantages in improving both accuracy and interpretability for real time fraud detection. To contextualize the trade offs, we compare our modular approach against a Dual LLM baseline that performs detection and judgment using different language models.

cs.CL↗

SAFE: An LLM-as-Verifier Framework for Evidence-Grounded Multi-Hop Reasoning

Multi-hop QA benchmarks often reward Large Language Models (LLMs) for spurious correctness, where models reach correct answers through invalid intermediate reasoning. We propose SAFE, an LLM-as-verifier framework for evidence-grounded multi-hop QA. Rather than judging only the final answer after generation, SAFE verifies reasoning during generation by checking intermediate steps against the provided passages and previous reasoning trajectory. To make this process checkable, SAFE decomposes reasoning into atomic, evidence-grounded units represented with Knowledge Graph (KG) triples. At train-time, SAFE verifies benchmark supervision under KG-grounded constraints and constructs reliable verifier training data. At inference-time, an external verifier checks each generated step, identifies invalid reasoning, and provides correction feedback before errors propagate. Across three multi-hop QA benchmarks, SAFE improves accuracy by 8.8 pp on average. These results show that evidence-grounded multi-hop QA benefits from shifting LLM-based evaluation from post-hoc answer judgment to stepwise reasoning verification.

cs.CL↗