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OrScale: Orthogonalised Optimization with Layer-Wise Trust-Ratio Scaling

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Muon fixes the \emph{direction} of every matrix-valued update at the polar factor of its momentum, while each layer's step \emph{magnitude} is addressed only by a static shape correction. We derive a dynamic per-layer scalar by adapting the LARS/LAMB trust-ratio principle to the orthogonalized setting, where the standard denominator candidates---the raw momentum norm or the polar-factor norm---either live in the wrong unit space or carry no update-scale information. The resulting method, \emph{OrScale}, uses the norm of the parameter-space direction actually applied and anchors each layer's ratio at one via a per-layer calibration, so that the Moonlight recipe (tuned for AdamW, shared with Muon via RMS matching) transfers with \emph{no additional sweep}; a component ablation confirms each design choice is individually load-bearing. Theoretically, OrScale retains a nuclear-norm $O(1/\sqrt{T})$ convergence rate for any clipped multiplier and achieves a strict layer-adaptive descent gain $κ_{\mathrm{eff}}>1$ under two conditions estimable from standard training diagnostics---a bound that predicts the gain should \emph{grow with architectural heterogeneity}. Experiments confirm the prediction: with every hyperparameter inherited verbatim from the Moonlight recipe, OrScale matches or beats Muon+Moonlight across dense 125M--1.1B FineWeb-Edu pre-training, and on a 16B-A3B mixture-of-experts model---where the logged trust ratios separate cleanly by layer class---the gap widens by an order of magnitude to $0.130$ nats ($3.8\%$ relative) at parity wall-clock cost.

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Yuxuan Lou, Yang You. 2026-08-30. OrScale: Orthogonalised Optimization with Layer-Wise Trust-Ratio Scaling. https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.07815

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